Young Earth Position

Lately, I've invested considerable time discussing via e-mail, Intelligent Design vs Evolution. In doing so, I discovered that AnswersinGenesis.org has expanded their web site. This encourages me to share one response, answering the question, "Are you a "young earther"?

Note: This origional page, 6/20/08 has additional updated paragraphs in red.

I grew up getting most of my opinions regarding evolution from my Dad, a well read conservative Christian. He held the popular conservative position of the time that there was a time "gap" of unknown length in:

Genesis. 1:1-3, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, (here's the gap) and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light."

This "gap" could account for the billions of years that some scientists insist is the age of the earth and the universe.

The "gap" theory goes like this: The earth and the heavens were created way back in time when the earth (and possibly heaven) was, or became, "formless and void", for any number of years, posssibly resulting from the earlier "fall" of Satan and his angels. (See Isaiah 14:12-17 and Ezekiel 28:11-19 for the record of Satan's fall).

Then the rest of the Genesis creation account was seen as a "re-creation" of the earth, being done in six literal 24 hour days. You may be aware of this gap theory.

Anyhow, this theory satisfied the dating of billions of years that the scientists claimed for the earth and the solar system. It even accounted for the age of the fossils which could have lived and died in that "formless and void" period etc. giving :"evidence" of great age too.

I held and taught this until in the 1950's I came across the early "John Morris" writings, http://www.christiananswers.net/creation/people/morris-j.html about the "young earth" possibilities. It included, how fossils resulted satisfactorily from the world wide flood etc.. This was the first time that I realized the "gap" theory was challenged with the truth of :
Romans 5:12, "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned— "

This declares that "death" (implying "death" for all life forms), resulted from the "fall" of Adam. It had not occurred to me and many others that this had serious implications against the "gap" theory. It rules out the ancient deaths supposedly ocurring during the "formless and void" period ahead of the fall. John Morris called attention to this as he explained the "young earth" concept.

So, as I worked through the "young earth" concept with the "created apparent age" explanations, admitting this was no problem for the Creator, I saw it as a solution.

If God could create a full grown man, apparently with "adult age", and trees, (which would obviously have growth rings indicating "age"), to populate His garden, He could create "age" into anything He chooses to create.

Of course when you speak of "created apparent age" to evolutionists, they retort that this made God a liar for deceiving the scientists! But the same could be said for any Biblical miracle that upsets the scientist. It's just not fair of God to do things that man cannot understand or doesn't fit into his rules!

I don't know about you, but I believe in the mind boggling miracles that are throughout the Bible. I just read the 3rd chapter of Daniel this morning about the "fiery furnace" that the three Hebrews survived etc. God divided the Red Sea. The resurrection of Jesus Christ etc. Believers do not require "scientific" processes for these events. We let God be God!

God who can do this can also "speak" the heavens and earth into existance, and in His way, build in "apparent age" to accomodate the millions of light years that measure the "apparent age" of the universe. In fact that is exactly what the Bible declares He did:
Psalm 33:6-9, ""By the word of the LORD were the heavens made,
their starry host by the breath of his mouth. 7 He gathers the waters of the sea into jars ;
he puts the deep into storehouses. 8 Let all the earth fear the LORD;
let all the people of the world revere him. 9 For he spoke, and it came to be;
he commanded, and it stood firm."

But, the evolutionist retorts that the creationist must furnish an acceptable explanation for the "millions of light years" that measure their age of the universe. This seems to be the big, if not the main objection to the "Young Earth" position.

Well, here is one explanation found in Trumpet Ministries web site,.by Carl Sanders: "Decay of the Speed of Light:"

"Two Australian scientists have produced some impressive data indicating the speed of light is not constant as we have all been taught, but is actually decreasing. The speed of light may have been ten million times faster at one time. Thus, the light from the most distant star may have arrived the same afternoon God made it. Further, because radiometric dating methods are physically tied to the speed of light, recalculation of these dates using a decaying speed of light results in data that clearly indicates a young earth. As Daniel reveals, in the end times, knowledge will increase. (Daniel 12:4)"

Here is an article addressing a possible solution: "A new cosmology: solution to the starlight travel time problem", http://creation.com/a-new-cosmology-solution-to-the-starlight-travel-time-problem


These explanations brought an almost instant retort that such was ridiculous, referencing, an article by W.T. Bridgman titled, "Issues on Barry Settlefield's Claims of a Recently Decaying Speed of Light",
http://homepage.mac.com/cygnusx1/cdecay/cdecay_e2d1.pdf "where Settlefield proposed that the speed of light was much higher in the not so distant past." Bridgman then procedes to take that issue apart.

The "Old Earth" Concept has its Problems too!

The light-travel–time argument cannot be used to reject the Bible in favour of the big bang, with its billions of years. This is because the big bang model also has a light-travel–time problem." The following article developes the big bang's problem, which is not trivial, " Light-travel time: a problem for the big bang", http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v25/i4/lighttravel.asp

More Evidence of "Old Earth" Problems! http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i4/oldearth.asp

Evidence I submitted, brought a response that we were guilty of "bending the facts". I responded with an article, titled, "Responses to an Evolutionist who accuses Creationists of "bending the facts"
http://www.ablesoftexchange.com/evolutiontwists.html There is a lot of "bending the facts" out there!

So, those who believe and trust a GREAT God, are "safe" from the wise guys of evolution, and perhaps, sincerely wrong, "Old Earthers", and can bask in our faith! God is capable of doing the miraculous and we will soon get His explanation of "huge light years" in the creation, when attending His heavenly "night school". I expect to get answers to other questions too! It's pleasant to be one of the "simple ones"!

We know that "saving" faith is a gift of God's grace:"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.", Ephesians 2:8-9 In a similar way, believing God's Word is a gift of His grace.


Here is a page from "AnswersinGenesis.org", http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/ that has a huge list of scientists who are believers, many being "youmg earthers". Scroll down toward the bottom of the list, where they are segregated by interests etc. There is a section where many give testimony that scientists and professors holding "Intelligent Design", are being "black balled" from many institutions. There is a Q&A section along with two excellant streaming DVDs: Scroll down the left hand column for: DVD Creation Astronomy, part 1 and DVD Creation Astronomy part 2,These two live videos are much better than my simple explanations - - -

Note: I just viewed these videos again and they are good! He has a great "dry" sense of humor!

Here is a site map for AnswersinGenesis.org to see what great territory they cover: http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/sitemap.asp

If evolutionists would look around they would see a multitude of equally knowledgable scientists who easily gave up the flawed evolutionary theory, for the obvious that the universe, from the galaxies down to the tiniest cells, require a Designer.

Here's another crowd of scientists, mostly Creationists: http://www.rae.org/index.html Click on "Essays" in left hand column.


The wise ones then realize that the Designer is also their Saviour or future Judge!

"Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.", Phil. 2:9-11

Speed the day!

Duane Gilchrist, 6/20/08, updated 7/5/08